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fumc:hymn-discussions [2026/05/19 18:49] – [July 5] be less pretentious about having to look words up naptasticfumc:hymn-discussions [2026/06/22 17:43] (current) – finish sentence naptastic
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 +=====Vital Information=====
 +  * Title: A Wesleyan Hymn Study
 +  * Description: Joyfully singing and discussing the hymns of John and Charles Wesley
 +  * When: Sundays from June 14th - August 30, inclusive. 10:00 - 11:00 AM
 +  * Where: The Wesley Chapel (downstairs)
 +  * Contact: David Nielson
 +
 +Here is the announcement slide:
 +
 +{{fumc::2026-hymn-study-announce-slide.pptx}}
 +
 =====Intention and Design===== =====Intention and Design=====
 +
 There are twelve classes. Intentions for the series: There are twelve classes. Intentions for the series:
   * Fill twelve weeks   * Fill twelve weeks
-  * Hold singing in the space and time where choir practice would be+  * Hold singing in the space and time where choir warmups would be
   * Increase participation in choir when it starts back up   * Increase participation in choir when it starts back up
-  * Get David proficient enough with keyboards to play nice music in the sanctuary before service starts(This is part of a larger conversation.)+  * Get Nap's piano proficiency up in preparation for future projects.
  
-To these ends, I want to move Sunday School downstairs to the Wesley Chapel where there is better-maintained piano.+We will meet in the Lee-Spratt room since the piano there is better. We just have to close the big doors to the hallway and leave the door near the elevator open for people to come in; otherwise too much sound carries between us and the sanctuary.
  
 Intentions for every week: Intentions for every week:
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 The first will be introductory and maybe we just do one hymn in order to make extra time to explain the intention and design of the series. The first will be introductory and maybe we just do one hymn in order to make extra time to explain the intention and design of the series.
- 
-=====Hymns===== 
-Here are the 18 hymns we've selected for the class. For a complete list of hymns Charles and John have in the blue book, consult the page history, or the author's index in the hymnal. 
- 
-^ Number ^ Title ^ Remarks ^ 
-|57| O For a Thousand Tongues to Sing|Ready - June 14| 
-|60| I’ll Praise My Maker While I’ve Breath|I need to hear this.| 
-|129| Give to the Winds Thy Fears|Ready - June 21| 
-|173| Christ, Whose Glory Fills the Skies|| 
-|196| Come, Thou Long-Expected Jesus |Hyfrydol; only 2 verses.| 
-|240| Hark! The Herald Angels Sing |about half ready| 
-|302| Christ the Lord Is Risen Today |about half ready| 
-|339| Come, Sinners, to the Gospel Feast |ready - June 28| 
-|384| Love Divine, All Loves Excelling |90% ready| 
-|385| Let Us Plead For Faith Alone |read music from 562. I need help learning this.| 
-|413| A Charge to Keep I Have |half ready; I'm struggling| 
-|417| O For a Heart to Praise My God|I need to hear this| 
-|513| Soldiers of Christ, Arise|10% - July 5| 
-|553| And Are We Yet Alive |Denis; about 90% ready| 
-|562| Jesus, Lord, We Look to Thee |Same tune as 385| 
-|627| O the Depth of Love Divine |I need to hear this.| 
-|709| Come, Let Us Join Our Friends Above|20% maybe| 
-|715| Rejoice, the Lord Is King|I like this one but I //really// like the LDS version...| 
  
 =====Calendar===== =====Calendar=====
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   * John and Charles Wesley's most enduring writings are in the hymns   * John and Charles Wesley's most enduring writings are in the hymns
   * The first page of the hymnal--the instructions on singing   * The first page of the hymnal--the instructions on singing
 +  * Despite John Wesley's admonitions about tempo, our hymns have no tempo markings.
 +
 +Also sang UMH 698: God of the Ages [Whose Almighty Hand]
  
 ====June 21==== ====June 21====
 ==UMH 129 - Give To The Winds Thy Fears==  ==UMH 129 - Give To The Winds Thy Fears== 
   * Short, but good. A diversity of ideas. I suspect enough of this will resonate with the people in the room that the spontaneous discussion will default to "what's heavy on your mind, and how does God's Word address it?"   * Short, but good. A diversity of ideas. I suspect enough of this will resonate with the people in the room that the spontaneous discussion will default to "what's heavy on your mind, and how does God's Word address it?"
 +
 +==UMH 377 - It Is Well With My Soul==
 +How is it with your soul?
 ====June 28==== ====June 28====
 ==UMH 339: Come, Sinners, to the Gospel Feast== ==UMH 339: Come, Sinners, to the Gospel Feast==
   * We are a very welcoming congregation. How can we become more inviting?   * We are a very welcoming congregation. How can we become more inviting?
 ====July 5==== ====July 5====
 +==513: Soldiers of Christ, Arise==
 I had to look up two words from the hymn. Here are the definitions from Oxford English Dictionary: I had to look up two words from the hymn. Here are the definitions from Oxford English Dictionary:
   * Panoply   * Panoply
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     - endowed or provided with a quality or ability.     - endowed or provided with a quality or ability.
  
-==513: Soldiers of Christ, Arise==+FIXME Nap doesn't know how to play this yet! 
 + 
 +FIXME Attach the UMC document about Christian Nationalism 
 First, note that this is in the //Sanctifying and Perfecting Grace// section of the hymnal. First, note that this is in the //Sanctifying and Perfecting Grace// section of the hymnal.
  
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 From the text, it is explicit that our fight is metaphorical and not literal. From the text, it is explicit that our fight is metaphorical and not literal.
  
-FIXME Attach the UMC document about Christian Nationalism 
 ====July 12==== ====July 12====
 +==562: Jesus, Lord, We Look to Thee==
 +(This is the same music as //Let Us Plead For Faith Alone//)
 +
 +So, this hymn. Thiiiiiiiis hecking hymn.
 +
 +On a piano, it can't be played as written. On a pipe organ, your feet can cover the very wide stretches. But **every obstacle is an opportunity** and I want to use this hymn to illustrate a **principle**.
 +
 +What I'd like to do is play one part, then have the group sing one verse on that line, in their own octave but in unison. I will plink out those parts. For the fifth and sixth verses, we'll sing harmony. I will play as much as I can on the piano for verse 5, and verse 6 I want us to sing //a capella//.
  
 +The idea that I want to drive home is that there isn't a "right" or "wrong" part to the music. For you as an individual, there may be right and wrong parts to sing, but that's an individual thing. The idea that a group singing together, multiple different parts, and all of them are correct, is a revolutionary idea. I have believed for a long time that there is a close connection between polyphonic music and the Protestant reformation. I also believe that this promise has not been fully realized. Even though basically the whole Christian world sings music in harmony, the significance of harmony hasn't sunk in for a lot of people, and they insist that everyone do the same things, have the same things, and be the same ways.
 ====July 19==== ====July 19====
 +==173: Christ Whose Glory Fills The Skies==
  
 ====July 26==== ====July 26====
 +==384: Love Divine, All Loves Excelling==
  
 ====August 2==== ====August 2====
 +(For special music this week, we are currently planning a congregational hymn.)
  
 ====August 9==== ====August 9====
  
 ====August 16==== ====August 16====
 +(For special music this week, we are currently planning a congregational hymn.)
  
 ====August 23==== ====August 23====
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   * Plug the next Sunday School series and note if the time is changing   * Plug the next Sunday School series and note if the time is changing
   * Suggest joining the chancel choir   * Suggest joining the chancel choir
 +
 +=====Hymns=====
 +Here are the 18 hymns we've selected for the class; we are going to use twelve of them. For a complete list of hymns Charles and John have in the blue book, consult the page history, or (better) the author's index in the hymnal.
 +
 +^ Number ^ Title ^ Remarks ^
 +|57| O For a Thousand Tongues to Sing|Ready - June 14|
 +|60| I’ll Praise My Maker While I’ve Breath|I need to hear this.|
 +|129| Give to the Winds Thy Fears|Ready - June 21|
 +|173| Christ, Whose Glory Fills the Skies||
 +|196| Come, Thou Long-Expected Jesus |Hyfrydol; only 2 verses.|
 +|240| Hark! The Herald Angels Sing |about half ready|
 +|302| Christ the Lord Is Risen Today |about half ready|
 +|339| Come, Sinners, to the Gospel Feast |ready - June 28|
 +|384| Love Divine, All Loves Excelling |90% ready|
 +|385| Let Us Plead For Faith Alone |read music from 562. I need help learning this.|
 +|413| A Charge to Keep I Have |half ready; I'm struggling|
 +|417| O For a Heart to Praise My God|40% perhaps|
 +|513| Soldiers of Christ, Arise|10% - July 5|
 +|553| And Are We Yet Alive |Denis; about 90% ready|
 +|562| Jesus, Lord, We Look to Thee |Same tune as 385|
 +|627| O the Depth of Love Divine |I need to hear this.|
 +|709| Come, Let Us Join Our Friends Above|20% maybe|
 +|715| Rejoice, the Lord Is King|I like this one but I //really// like the LDS version...|
 +
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