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fumc:hymn-discussions [2026/02/06 20:12] – We aren't meeting on June 7 naptasticfumc:hymn-discussions [2026/03/08 16:25] (current) – forgot one. We are now at 18 hymns. naptastic
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 =====Intention and Design===== =====Intention and Design=====
-There are thirteen classes. Intentions for the series: +There are twelve classes. Intentions for the series: 
-  * Fill thirteen weeks+  * Fill twelve weeks
   * Hold singing in the space and time where choir practice would be   * Hold singing in the space and time where choir practice would be
   * Increase participation in choir when it starts back up   * Increase participation in choir when it starts back up
 +  * Get David proficient enough with keyboards to play nice music in the sanctuary before service starts. (This is part of a larger conversation.)
  
 To these ends, I want to move Sunday School downstairs to the Wesley Chapel where there is a better-maintained piano. To these ends, I want to move Sunday School downstairs to the Wesley Chapel where there is a better-maintained piano.
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 =====Hymns===== =====Hymns=====
-These are (almost) all the hymns in the blue hymnal by Charles and John Wesley. I've added asterisks for hymns when someone has pointed one out as a favorite.+Here are the 18 hymns we've selected for the class. For a complete list of hymns Charles and John have in the blue book, consult the page history, or the author's index in the hymnal.
  
 ^ Number ^ Title ^ Remarks ^ ^ Number ^ Title ^ Remarks ^
-^ Charles Wesley ^^^ +|57| O For a Thousand Tongues to Sing|Ready to play| 
-|57| O For a Thousand Tongues to Sing| *| +|60| I’ll Praise My Maker While I’ve Breath|I need to hear this.| 
-|88| Maker, in Whom We Live|| +|129| Give to the Winds Thy Fears|About 90% ready.|
-|96| Praise the Lord Who Reigns Above|| +
-|153| Thou Hidden Source of Calm Repose||+
 |173| Christ, Whose Glory Fills the Skies|| |173| Christ, Whose Glory Fills the Skies||
-|181| Ye Servants of God|| +|196| Come, Thou Long-Expected Jesus |Hyfrydol; only 2 verses.| 
-|193| Jesus! The Name High over All|| +|240| Hark! The Herald Angels Sing |about half ready| 
-|196| Come, Thou Long-Expected Jesus |*| +|302| Christ the Lord Is Risen Today |about half ready| 
-|240| Hark! The Herald Angels Sing |*| +|339| Come, Sinners, to the Gospel Feast |90% ready| 
-|282| Tis Finished! The Messiah Dies|| +|384| Love Divine, All Loves Excelling |90% ready| 
-|287| O Love Divine, What Hast Thou Done|| +|385| Let Us Plead For Faith Alone || 
-|302| Christ the Lord Is Risen Today |*| +|413| A Charge to Keep I Have |super easy; about half ready| 
-|312| Hail the Dat That Sees Him Rise|| +|417| O For a Heart to Praise My God ||
-|332| Spirit of Faith, Come Down|| +
-|339| Come, Sinners, to the Gospel Feast |*| +
-|355| Depth of Mercy|| +
-|363| And Can It Be that I Should Gain|| +
-|372| How Can We Sinners Know|| +
-|379| Blow Ye the Trumpet, Blow|| +
-|384| Love Divine, All Loves Excelling |*| +
-|385| Let Us Plead for Faith Alone|| +
-|386| Come, O Thou Traveler Unknown|| +
-|388| O Come and Dwell in Me |*| +
-|410| I Want a Principle Within|| +
-|413| A Charge to Keep I Have |*| +
-|417| O For a Heart to Praise My God |*| +
-|422| Jesus, Thine All-Victorious Love|| +
-|438| Forth in Thy Name, O Lord|| +
-|479| Jesus, Lover of My Soul|| +
-|501| O Thou Who Camest from Above||+
 |513| Soldiers of Christ, Arise|| |513| Soldiers of Christ, Arise||
-|541| See How Great a Flame Aspires|| +|553| And Are We Yet Alive |Denis; about 90% ready| 
-|550| Christ, from Whom All Blessings Flow|| +|562| Jesus, Lord, We Look to Thee |Same tune as 385| 
-|553| And Are We Yet Alive |*| +|627| O the Depth of Love Divine |* I need to hear this.| 
-|554| All Praise to Our Redeeming Lord|| +|709| Come, Let Us Join Our Friends Above|* I like this one. It's less than half ready.| 
-|561| Jesus, United by Thy Grace|| +|715| Rejoice, the Lord Is King|* I like this one but I //really// like the LDS version...|
-|562| Jesus, Lord, We Look to Thee |*| +
-|566| Blest Be the Dear Uniting Love|| +
-|603| Come, Holy Ghost, Our Hearts Inspire|| +
-|606| Come, Let Us Use the Grace Divine|| +
-|613| O Thou Who This Mysterious Bread|| +
-|616| Come, Sinners, to the Gospel Feast |*| +
-|627| O the Depth of Love Divine |*| +
-|635| Because Thou Hast Said|| +
-|650| Give Me the Faith Which Can Remove|| +
-|699| Come, and Let Us Sweetly Join|| +
-|709| Come, Let Us Join Our Friends Above|| +
-|715| Rejoice, the Lord Is King|| +
-|716| Rejoice, the Lord Is King | [this harmonization is much more difficult]| +
-|718| Lo, He Comes with Clouds Descending|| +
-^ John Wesley ^^^ +
-|60| I’ll Praise My Maker While I’ve Breath|| +
-|129| Give to the Winds Thy Fears|| +
-|414| Thou Hidden Love of God|| +
-|607| A Covenant Prayer in the Wesleyan Tradition |(see W&S 3115 for a crappy arrangement)|+
  
 =====Calendar===== =====Calendar=====
-By when do I need to have hymns picked? Figure it takes three weeks for me to learn a hymn, and I can probably only learn two at a time.+I want to have **one or two** hymns per week to sing and discuss. 
 + 
 +I probably need help choosing which hymns to put on which weeks, what questions to ask, etc.
  
 ====June 7==== ====June 7====
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 ====June 21==== ====June 21====
-  * Old Testament Reading: 
-  * Gospel Reading: 
-  * Epistle Reading: 
  
 ====June 28==== ====June 28====
-  * Old Testament Reading: 
-  * Gospel Reading: 
-  * Epistle Reading: 
  
 ====July 5==== ====July 5====
-  * Old Testament Reading: +Definitions of words from the hymn (from Oxford English Dictionary): 
-  * Gospel Reading: +  * Panoply 
-  * Epistle Reading:+    - a complete or impressive collection of things. 
 +    - a splendid display 
 +    - a complete set of arms or suit of armor 
 +  * Endued 
 +    - endowed or provided with a quality or ability.
  
 +==513: Soldiers of Christ, Arise==
 +First, note that this is in the //Sanctifying and Perfecting Grace// section of the hymnal.
 +
 +  * The Armor of God: Ephesians 6:10-20, Romans 8:28-38
 +
 +From the text, it is explicit that our fight is metaphorical and not literal.
 +
 +FIXME Attach the UMC document about Christian Nationalism
 ====July 12==== ====July 12====
-  * Old Testament Reading: 
-  * Gospel Reading: 
-  * Epistle Reading: 
  
 ====July 19==== ====July 19====
-  * Old Testament Reading: 
-  * Gospel Reading: 
-  * Epistle Reading: 
  
 ====July 26==== ====July 26====
-  * Old Testament Reading: 
-  * Gospel Reading: 
-  * Epistle Reading: 
  
 ====August 2==== ====August 2====
-  * Old Testament Reading: 
-  * Gospel Reading: 
-  * Epistle Reading: 
  
 ====August 9==== ====August 9====
-  * Old Testament Reading: 
-  * Gospel Reading: 
-  * Epistle Reading: 
  
 ====August 16==== ====August 16====
-  * Old Testament Reading: 
-  * Gospel Reading: 
-  * Epistle Reading: 
  
 ====August 23==== ====August 23====
-  * Old Testament Reading: 
-  * Gospel Reading: 
-  * Epistle Reading: 
  
 ====August 30==== ====August 30====
-  * Old Testament Reading: 
-  * Gospel Reading: 
-  * Epistle Reading: 
- 
 This is the last class of the series. Some points that can't be left out: This is the last class of the series. Some points that can't be left out:
   * Plug the next Sunday School series and note if the time is changing   * Plug the next Sunday School series and note if the time is changing
   * Suggest joining the chancel choir   * Suggest joining the chancel choir
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