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fumc:hymn-discussions [2026/02/06 20:12] – We aren't meeting on June 7 naptasticfumc:hymn-discussions [2026/05/03 00:16] (current) – [August 23] assign hymn naptastic
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 =====Intention and Design===== =====Intention and Design=====
-There are thirteen classes. Intentions for the series: +There are twelve classes. Intentions for the series: 
-  * Fill thirteen weeks+  * Fill twelve weeks
   * Hold singing in the space and time where choir practice would be   * Hold singing in the space and time where choir practice would be
   * Increase participation in choir when it starts back up   * Increase participation in choir when it starts back up
 +  * Get David proficient enough with keyboards to play nice music in the sanctuary before service starts. (This is part of a larger conversation.)
  
 To these ends, I want to move Sunday School downstairs to the Wesley Chapel where there is a better-maintained piano. To these ends, I want to move Sunday School downstairs to the Wesley Chapel where there is a better-maintained piano.
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 =====Hymns===== =====Hymns=====
-These are (almost) all the hymns in the blue hymnal by Charles and John Wesley. I've added asterisks for hymns when someone has pointed one out as a favorite.+Here are the 18 hymns we've selected for the class. For a complete list of hymns Charles and John have in the blue book, consult the page history, or the author's index in the hymnal.
  
 ^ Number ^ Title ^ Remarks ^ ^ Number ^ Title ^ Remarks ^
-^ Charles Wesley ^^^ +|57| O For a Thousand Tongues to Sing|Ready - June 14| 
-|57| O For a Thousand Tongues to Sing| *| +|60| I’ll Praise My Maker While I’ve Breath|I need to hear this.| 
-|88| Maker, in Whom We Live|| +|129| Give to the Winds Thy Fears|Ready - June 21|
-|96| Praise the Lord Who Reigns Above|| +
-|153| Thou Hidden Source of Calm Repose||+
 |173| Christ, Whose Glory Fills the Skies|| |173| Christ, Whose Glory Fills the Skies||
-|181| Ye Servants of God|| +|196| Come, Thou Long-Expected Jesus |Hyfrydol; only 2 verses.| 
-|193| Jesus! The Name High over All|| +|240| Hark! The Herald Angels Sing |about half ready| 
-|196| Come, Thou Long-Expected Jesus |*| +|302| Christ the Lord Is Risen Today |about half ready| 
-|240| Hark! The Herald Angels Sing |*| +|339| Come, Sinners, to the Gospel Feast |ready - June 28| 
-|282| Tis Finished! The Messiah Dies|| +|384| Love Divine, All Loves Excelling |90% ready| 
-|287| O Love Divine, What Hast Thou Done|| +|385| Let Us Plead For Faith Alone |read music from 562. I need help learning this.| 
-|302| Christ the Lord Is Risen Today |*| +|413| A Charge to Keep I Have |half ready; I'm struggling| 
-|312| Hail the Dat That Sees Him Rise|| +|417| O For a Heart to Praise My God|I need to hear this| 
-|332| Spirit of Faith, Come Down|| +|513| Soldiers of Christ, Arise|10% - July 5| 
-|339| Come, Sinners, to the Gospel Feast |*| +|553| And Are We Yet Alive |Denis; about 90% ready| 
-|355| Depth of Mercy|| +|562| Jesus, Lord, We Look to Thee |Same tune as 385| 
-|363| And Can It Be that I Should Gain|| +|627| O the Depth of Love Divine |I need to hear this.| 
-|372| How Can We Sinners Know|| +|709| Come, Let Us Join Our Friends Above|20% maybe| 
-|379| Blow Ye the Trumpet, Blow|| +|715| Rejoice, the Lord Is King|I like this one but I //really// like the LDS version...|
-|384| Love Divine, All Loves Excelling |*| +
-|385| Let Us Plead for Faith Alone|| +
-|386| Come, O Thou Traveler Unknown|| +
-|388| O Come and Dwell in Me |*| +
-|410| I Want a Principle Within|| +
-|413| A Charge to Keep I Have |*| +
-|417| O For a Heart to Praise My God |*| +
-|422| Jesus, Thine All-Victorious Love|| +
-|438| Forth in Thy Name, O Lord|| +
-|479| Jesus, Lover of My Soul|| +
-|501| O Thou Who Camest from Above|| +
-|513| Soldiers of Christ, Arise|| +
-|541| See How Great a Flame Aspires|| +
-|550| Christ, from Whom All Blessings Flow|| +
-|553| And Are We Yet Alive |*| +
-|554| All Praise to Our Redeeming Lord|| +
-|561| Jesus, United by Thy Grace|| +
-|562| Jesus, Lord, We Look to Thee |*| +
-|566| Blest Be the Dear Uniting Love|| +
-|603| Come, Holy Ghost, Our Hearts Inspire|| +
-|606| Come, Let Us Use the Grace Divine|| +
-|613| O Thou Who This Mysterious Bread|| +
-|616| Come, Sinners, to the Gospel Feast |*| +
-|627| O the Depth of Love Divine |*| +
-|635| Because Thou Hast Said|| +
-|650| Give Me the Faith Which Can Remove|| +
-|699| Come, and Let Us Sweetly Join|| +
-|709| Come, Let Us Join Our Friends Above|| +
-|715| Rejoice, the Lord Is King|| +
-|716| Rejoice, the Lord Is King | [this harmonization is much more difficult]| +
-|718| Lo, He Comes with Clouds Descending|| +
-^ John Wesley ^^^ +
-|60| I’ll Praise My Maker While I’ve Breath|| +
-|129| Give to the Winds Thy Fears|| +
-|414| Thou Hidden Love of God|| +
-|607| A Covenant Prayer in the Wesleyan Tradition |(see W&S 3115 for a crappy arrangement)|+
  
 =====Calendar===== =====Calendar=====
-By when do I need to have hymns picked? Figure it takes three weeks for me to learn a hymn, and I can probably only learn two at a time.+I want to have **one or two** hymns per week to sing and discuss. 
 + 
 +I probably need help choosing which hymns to put on which weeks, what questions to ask, etc.
  
 ====June 7==== ====June 7====
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 ====June 14==== ====June 14====
-==O For A Thousand Tongues to Sing==+==UMH 67: O For A Thousand Tongues to Sing==
 (Potential) questions: (Potential) questions:
   * If you had a thousand tongues, what song would you sing?   * If you had a thousand tongues, what song would you sing?
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 ====June 21==== ====June 21====
-  * Old Testament Reading: +==UMH 129 - Give To The Winds Thy Fears==  
-  * Gospel Reading: +  * Short, but good. A diversity of ideas. I suspect enough of this will resonate with the people in the room that the spontaneous discussion will default to "what's heavy on your mind, and how does God's Word address it?"
-  * Epistle Reading: +
 ====June 28==== ====June 28====
-  * Old Testament Reading: +==UMH 339: Come, Sinners, to the Gospel Feast==
-  * Gospel Reading: +
-  * Epistle Reading: +
 ====July 5==== ====July 5====
-  * Old Testament Reading: +Definitions of words from the hymn (from Oxford English Dictionary): 
-  * Gospel Reading: +  * Panoply 
-  * Epistle Reading:+    - a complete or impressive collection of things. 
 +    - a splendid display 
 +    - a complete set of arms or suit of armor 
 +  * Endued 
 +    - endowed or provided with a quality or ability.
  
 +==513: Soldiers of Christ, Arise==
 +First, note that this is in the //Sanctifying and Perfecting Grace// section of the hymnal.
 +
 +  * The Armor of God: Ephesians 6:10-20, Romans 8:28-38
 +
 +From the text, it is explicit that our fight is metaphorical and not literal.
 +
 +FIXME Attach the UMC document about Christian Nationalism
 ====July 12==== ====July 12====
-  * Old Testament Reading: 
-  * Gospel Reading: 
-  * Epistle Reading: 
  
 ====July 19==== ====July 19====
-  * Old Testament Reading: 
-  * Gospel Reading: 
-  * Epistle Reading: 
  
 ====July 26==== ====July 26====
-  * Old Testament Reading: 
-  * Gospel Reading: 
-  * Epistle Reading: 
  
 ====August 2==== ====August 2====
-  * Old Testament Reading: 
-  * Gospel Reading: 
-  * Epistle Reading: 
  
 ====August 9==== ====August 9====
-  * Old Testament Reading: 
-  * Gospel Reading: 
-  * Epistle Reading: 
  
 ====August 16==== ====August 16====
-  * Old Testament Reading: 
-  * Gospel Reading: 
-  * Epistle Reading: 
  
 ====August 23==== ====August 23====
-  * Old Testament Reading: +==UMH 709: Come, Let Us Join Our Friends Above==
-  * Gospel Reading: +
-  * Epistle Reading: +
 ====August 30==== ====August 30====
-  * Old Testament Reading: +==UMH 60: I'll Praise My Maker While I've Breath==
-  * Gospel Reading: +
-  * Epistle Reading: +
 This is the last class of the series. Some points that can't be left out: This is the last class of the series. Some points that can't be left out:
   * Plug the next Sunday School series and note if the time is changing   * Plug the next Sunday School series and note if the time is changing
   * Suggest joining the chancel choir   * Suggest joining the chancel choir
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